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There ya go lol. Also so it's basically elemental magics with some differences, you'd be better off just making your own version of the main four elements. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 15:11, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Is the second point inspired by Gold Experience, perhaps? :P Other than that, go ahead. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 23:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

having her be the healing type would be cool, I like it. --Lady Komainu (talk) 01:43, May 16, 2016 (UTC)


Spatial Magic

Yo Twi, that magic I was talking about, first off I have yet to concretely decide upon a name for it yet, so far I've been comfortable with referring to it as Zone, but it's going to be the ultimate form of spatial magic available, a lost magic of course, that will trump any other form of spatial magic known. I'll let you decide once I get the page up. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 18:42, May 17, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I have to decline given I'm behind in my own stuff lol. Looks cool though.
Zicoihno    05:34:32 Thu

First of all, thanks a lot but that position belongs to Per. She's the head-honcho in terms of magic-y stuff around here. Secondly, I might look into that. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the offer :P Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 05:37, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Nine Elementals; Spare Positions?

As the heading indicates. Have any room in your Nine Elementals left? If so, which elements (assuming that's what you're going by) are available for use? And if there's room, may I make a member? Ashy (Welcome!) 00:21, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll take a position if you don't mind. Thanks! Ashy (Welcome!) 00:33, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I think I'll make a female. Ashy (Welcome!) 00:37, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

If you'd like, I could potentially do the strongest female? Ashy (Welcome!) 00:49, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, been trying to find some images for him. :P Ventus (RIDE THE WIND) 00:49, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, no worries. It just looked like you hadn't planned much is all. Ashy (Welcome!) 00:55, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. Ventus (RIDE THE WIND) 01:10, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I think I'll make my own. Thanks for the offer though. Ashy (Welcome!) 01:12, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Ventus (RIDE THE WIND) 01:25, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Idk about the name, it's the only one I could come up with. :P Ventus (RIDE THE WIND) 01:41, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Twilight, I've been thinking. Is there anyway I can make Prime Decade my Elemental instead? Ventus (RIDE THE WIND) 02:22, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

N.E

Yo Five, just setting up what I signed for. So I think I'm gonna make a lazy assassin called "Edward Hartmann" as one of your Nine Elementals. Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 02:24, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

No worries, thought it should be interesting. Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 02:37, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Hey man I only suggest this cause of two reasons. One I think an anime has an Edward Hartmann assassin or something similar and you know how crossover|copyright are, but I'm not sure. But because of how lazy he is going to be. Why not call his last name Hearth. A reflection to his at home relaxing mind set, the center of the home is a hearth. So he is the center of himself. But only a suggestion it's not a requirement. I rather like this character so far.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 02:46, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Now that's a damn coincidence, lol.

Mine's name, Edward has a lame origin. It comes from Twilight's Edward, because Jacob Lessio from the Spriggan 12 reminds me of Twilight's Jacob. Two assassins, why not.

And Hartmann actually means Hard One. Also, I don't think it's from an anime? But merely a fictional character? Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 02:55, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I won't use Nein, that'd bring people back to Neinhart. The naming is ironical. Also, Ash said I should be fine as long as I stated my original intention of naming. Thanks for worrying tho'. Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 03:24, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

No offense that your writing is somewhat confusing but thx for worrying again. Fair enough, also lol :P Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 03:43, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, that justifies it. Also, so far only Shadow Magic. I'm off for now, nite. Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 03:57, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Again, no worries, lol. Thanks! Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 04:01, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

What Elementals do you have left? Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 07:52, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

What element is left then? Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 09:30, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Please do. I need a better clarification on how to go about this properly. 09:53, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Here are some that are free. 

  • Weapon King
  • Inheritor Theory
  • Sacred Earth
  • Subjugator of Arts
  • Ocean King
  • 1000 Methods

I'll come up with more if you don't like these.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 10:12, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I welcome the help but there is no need, thanks Nameless Knight名も無きん者騎士 (SUMMON ME) 23:18, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I think I got it. Arashi's two primary magic are Shinobi Art and Teleportation, while Requip is for weapons and Telepathy is for times when he need to contact the other Elementals. Now I just need to give him an epithet. Ventus (RIDE THE WIND) 01:08, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Aine Euryphresea is her name. She uses "Theoria" and "Ain Soph Aur", two very specific forms of Light Magic which I shall explain in detail later. Ashy (Welcome!) 00:41, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad to see that the Nine Elementals are making great progress! Seems you have 6, plus Lorelei who will be made soon I hope. But do you think you can make a page for the nine Elementals? Just so we know where we are ranked, and to show our strength as a collective? Basically kinda how the spriggan 12 have their own page and stuff. Just thought it would be cool so then we all know our standings and our nicknames. -Lady Komainu (talk) 14:47, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

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Hello. Do you perhaps have any spot left in the Nine Elementals? Zaregoto (talk) 01:54, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you. Zaregoto (talk) 02:07, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Lorelei

I like the name. The image is a bit iffy for me. I don't see her as being fearsome, elegant, or even remotely commanding respect as the strongest elemental. A drunk was not what I imagined, especially after you said you wanted her to be better than Irene. Doesn't seem like the person who would command a prison of dangerous criminals. -Lady Komainu (talk) 04:22, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

So what do you think of Balsa from Moribito? She seems like she could be powerful. There are a lot of good gifs of her fighting with a spear too. -Lady Komainu (talk) 04:46, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

I like The pictures of the uniform, she seems like a good fit. -Lady Komainu (talk) 05:02, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, why not? Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 18:58, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Heya TD5! Is there a spot left in your Nine Elementals? I would love to make a member, if you'd allow me. And if not, well that's okay lol. Yuu (Honey Badger Don't Care) 20:44, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'm too bust right now to search for another image; that will have to do for now. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 20:44, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Yo Twi, first I added the needed coding for you archive, just to make it look a little cleaner, hope you don't mind. Second I found a site that might really interest you, http://fantasynamegenerators.com/. Despite the name its got a shit load of stuff that would be extremely helpful to you. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:10, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

For the first part, go ahead. For the second part, because of his personality he's very arrogant and not willing to accept someone more powerful than him, even if they are. You can say the person is and Yarrow will make attempts at eliminating him or something similar to that effect. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 00:35, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

More or less, yes. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 00:49, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Are you going to start Lorelei tonight too? --Lady Komainu (talk) 03:31, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

I'll think about it, I've been a bit busy lately. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 12:02, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

I generally prefer to have complete control over what I create with nothing predetermined except a name and location in collaboration efforts. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 14:43, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah that'd be fine. I've been revamping him anyways cause he's my first character and was needing it anyways. Although why would he be on the continent in the first place, if you don't mind my asking? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:59, May 26, 2016 (UTC) I was going to work on her in a bit, so I will try and think of a good magic as her third. What is her personality going to be like? Also I saw your post on killers page mentioning the alliance, and if I were you I would start posting on the talk pages of those you want involved. This way they have time to think about if they like the idea or not, they can start asking members to participate (if they agree with your plan), and can ask questions that you can work out for when this story eventually starts. Basically just keep them in the loop. -Lady Komainu (talk) 00:34, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

If it's just a barrier with special properties, then make it a Barrier Magic spell or something uncategorized. Other than that, go ahead. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 01:39, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Honestly, just make it an uncategorized spell. A magic doesn't just do one thing like a project a single barrier. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 02:21, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

So I am too tired to work on Lorelei tonight, but I will hopefully put some stuff down for her personality and appearance tomorrow. But you are going to work on the pangaea of the world right? Because that doesnt seem like a magic article at all... I am assuming you are going to put some more detail in the description and then put some spells down. But perhaps Blood Magic would be good for her? Since she is a coldbooded killer and what not. Plus it would give her control over her prisoners if they act up. --Lady Komainu (talk) 03:20, May 27, 2016 (UTC) 

Yeah I'll start making details for Pangaea. Blood Magic huh, I think it can work. She is the greatest doctor in Aeternum. She is on par with Irminsul in this one subjects. But what makes her the greatest is she can do surgeries and has almost godlike knowledge of the human body. She can do things without Magic to her patients. Also she loves Alcohol more so than Baccuss or Cana. She can out drink them.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 03:55, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hey TD5, can you give me a small summary for your Nine thing just so I know what I gotta cover? Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 02:08, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Sure why not. But I should tell you that with those magics, they're each incredibly power as they're separate magics, not spells - being aspects of something found in reality. So yeah, since I've done that for my storyline, you gotta downplay it a bit so that you won't get into it with the admins later. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 02:41, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. Also do you have a name for the character I'm making or can I name them whatever? Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 06:51, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I would say third in power whilst second strongest. Here's the reason; Yarrow is constantly evolving machine who's been through hundreds, if not thousands of battles - all in an attempt to become the strongest. This would mean that, combat-wise, he would top Lorelei because he's more versatile of a fighter in this regard having much more experience than her. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 14:03, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Never really cared about that stuff, figured you've must had your reasons for choosing the name. I just went along with it; anyways, I will add that suggestion about Yarrow to his trivia. That's a good one, fits perfectly for him :P Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 14:17, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

That would work pretty well actually. And I was going to work on the wire magic today. The main reason I gave that to her was because it can be used for stitching. It will basically be able to seal up any wound, even connecting limbs back with perfect connection of vessels and neurons (it can be infused with her ethernano to allow for such capabilities). It also gives her a bit more to work with in regards to combat. -Lady Komainu (talk) 16:05, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I just wanna add in to something Ash mentioned on his page; if there are magics like Ain Soph Aur existing and there are experienced users like Aine Euryphresea walking around, then it becomes impossible to beat them due to them masterfully exploiting their powerful effects. So yeah, people like Aine can beat Yarrow if pushed far enough and utilize the full capacity of their given capabilities. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 16:50, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Tenth Elemental

Yo Twilight, I have an idea that could work out. How about we create a tenth elemental. Y'know, like a secret member of the group that works behind the scenes of the main 9 and answers directly to Kladenets. Some of the members knows of his/her existence, but they don't show herself to them unless Kladenets wills it. Call it his "secret backup" of sorts, should the other nine were to somehow fall. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 18:28, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

You think that you could forward this idea to Zare? This is something I suggested to him in order to get him affiliated with Kladenets in some way. This should work out with him if anything. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 19:10, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Seems fine to me. Do you want me to develop the idea (Zero Co., write about it) or you do by yourself? Zaregoto (talk) 19:23, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ok. I'll write a preview and send to you later before publishing it. Zaregoto (talk) 19:41, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Here it is. I don't think we need a separated page to the Zero Co.; we can integrate it in either the Nine Elementals page as a subsection or in the Kingdom of Aeternum page.

The Zero Corporation of Past, or Zero Co., is a secret group working directly under the command of the King of Aeternum. Each member is a former component of the Nine Elementals, demoted from their positions due to various reasons; be it a loss in an official match to be replaced by another person or self-retirement. They bestow power equal or superior to the current members of Nine Elementals, but are not embraced by their benefits, such as a particular army or social status. Their existence remains hidden and only Kladenets has knowledge of their existence, as himself is their leader. The main reason to the creation of this group is a safety measure when a member of the Nine Elementals becomes inapt to hold their position without a previously established replacement, allowing the Zero Co. members to regain their former position. Zaregoto (talk) 20:08, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, perhaps a similar to the one currently used by the Nine. Zaregoto (talk) 20:40, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I'm only creating this because Alpha said it would be cool to have another member as an "undercover agent". I'll leave the conditions to joining to you since you gave the idea to create this group. Zaregoto (talk) 21:39, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Anyway, I think I'll post it in the Nine Elementals page, under the member category as "former members". I made some adjustments to the text to fit better. Read and tell me if you want to change anything and if I can publish it. Also, Brigid LeBlanc will be my Zero Co. member.

The former members of the Nine Elementals that were demoted from their positions due to various reasons, be it a loss in an official match to be replaced by another person or self-retirement, compose a secret group working directly under the command of the King of Aeternum. The Zero Corporation of Past, or Zero Co. as they are called, bestow power equal or superior to the current members of the Nine Elementals, but are not embraced by their benefits, such as a particular army or social status. Their existence remains hidden and only Kladenets has knowledge of their identity, as himself is their leader. The main reason to the creation of this group is a safety measure when a member of the Nine Elementals becomes inapt to hold their position without a previously established replacement, allowing the Zero Co. members to regain their former position. Zaregoto (talk) 21:52, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ranking

Alright TD5, I need to get something off my chest. Now I know you are the creator of this Nine Elemental group, but I find it very trivial and annoying that you are so intent on ranking everyone within the group. It actually makes me feel rather inadequate and belittled, as I am sure it does to some of the other people in the group. I understand that it can sometimes be fun to make up your own ranking of characters in the anime, but when you do it with something as personal as someone's own creation, feelings tend to arise (whether that be positive or negative). That is why they don't do the site wide Wizard Saints anymore. When you rank something essential to a character, like their genuine power, it becomes more of a competition as to who can write better to please the judge, rather than enjoying the process of making something new and unique to you.  Sure if you want to rank them on silly things like the best arm wrestler, the best at rock-paper-scissors, or the best at Mario Kart, go ahead. But I find it injurious and petty when you continuously bombard us with comments and messages as to who the strongest mage is overall, reminding us of those who are on top and those who are on bottom. I just wanted to voice my opinion to you, you are free to take it how you will, but I needed to let you know how it was making me feel. --Lady Komainu (talk) 01:14, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

People do not argue who's character is the strongest, or are you seeing an all out war on the wiki that I am oblivious to?? If they want to test if their character is strong, they challenge each other in an RP, where a variety of circumstances will determine the victor. But that doesn't mean that person is stronger. Say you take the same two mages and put them in a different environment, the other could emerge victorious. Does that mean they're the strongest now? No. It is all circumstantial when it comes to strength. As I said before, giving your opinion on who is stronger just belittles the rest. Each person puts unique parts of their creativity into their character to make them the strongest they can be. And when you completely dismiss that effort and potential that they have, that can be hurtful. People don't need a rank to build their characters around. There are users on here who have made some amazing characters without knowing where they stand in the grand scheme of strength. I understand your intentions, but the perception of this, in my eyes, is highly unneeded and damaging. --Lady Komainu (talk) 02:24, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

FTF is different and very well regulated, that is why you haven't seen those dramatic things that you are talking about. I am just saying that all the users here, especially the ones in the Elementals, are very mature and wouldn't argue about strength in the first place. We are all content with having similar power levels and focusing on our own specialties that make us each unique. We don't need constant reminders of who you think is stronger than whom.  I can say for a fact that I am not alone in this mentality, and I just wanted to bring it to your attention so you are aware of the effects it can have.  --Lady Komainu (talk) 02:42, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

It wouldn't be the Black Art, but other than that, go ahead. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 23:41, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

It wouldn't be the Black Art, it'd be a Black Art. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 23:50, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

The Ninth Spot

Is the last spot of the Nine Elementals still reserved for Per? If not, can I make the ninth character? Jonny (HERE'S JONNY!) 10:55, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Okay then, I will, thanks. Jonny (HERE'S JONNY!) 18:02, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah that could probably work, like a drug that gives them magic powers. Are you telling me this cause you want me to make it? -Lady Komainu (talk) 19:58, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

So you don't want me to make it..? So you're going to? -Lady Komainu (talk) 20:08, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Here you go. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 00:17, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Irminsul

What were you stuck with? I thought you had Alpha helping you out, no? Ashy (Welcome!) 10:59, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I mean, honestly speaking, he sounds way too much like August at this point? Incredible magical power, incredible magical knowledge, etc. I know you want that to be his 'archetype' but...it seems kind of out of place? Personally I'd go with a route that he isn't magically talented and his incredible research in different magical arts gave him, not a massive power, but ability to control incredibly diverse magic types. Ashy (Welcome!) 22:06, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry bout the later reply, I was working on some kanji for Kiryk. But yeah, that sounds like a reasonable explanation. I would like to keep what I have in the way of description his Red Lightning cause I did address that issue about Zeus purifying the MBP him so you don't have to worry bout that. By the way, what or when exactly is the next RP going to happen, I'm just curious? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:32, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

Alright that's fine I was just curious. Also just so that I'm clear on this, as Kiryk is Chief of Staff what exactly does make his primary duties? Also, considering that he's the second longest termed member of the nine I would think that he would more or less be like the third strongest member of them, but that's just my opinion at least looking at the setup and his general position. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:10, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

I get the "no rankings" but for my own clarity Kiryk would then be what just under those three? And also what your saying his job essentially is is as the kings most trusted right hand man? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:19, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

So Kiryk acts as Kladenets mouthpiece and proxy to the king in his absence then along with the day to day functions of the kingdom? And I get the basic build structure that you used. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:28, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

I don't mind helping, I'll have to start tomorrow but that's beside the point. Are you taking Ash's comments into consideration on him about making him less like August, look above, just so I know what to work with. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:44, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I get the fact that he's really old, but to quote Ash, as he said that you want his arch-type to be like August and that's fine but Irminsul seems a little to much like August in regard to his general, note general, powers and abilities. If its fine with you I'll word his abilities as being more of magical combat than physical combat, making him seem more like your traditional wizard. Also I just though about it how about I add to his into that his first name is Merlin, making his name Merlin Irminsul. All in all, I'll put what I think should work for him and you can modify what I put down to fit your own views on the character. Does that sound good? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 20:18, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

If you wanna go about it that way, then sure. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 21:10, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about the late reply I'm redoing a major revamp of Shōjirō and his powers and whatnot, but I don't mind starting, we wont have much time today but you can start and I'll jump in whenever. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:41, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, I'm calling it a day. I'll be back on tomorrow so we can start Kiryk's backstory then, or you can start it and I can jump in tomorrow, just let me know what the name of it is. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:24, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

So, it's like Kaguya with him going back to "his dimension" to become "God", huh? Fair nuff. Remember that if Hibiki makes an appearance I need to control her - I don't like other people using my characters. It's just annoying for me. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 16:33, June 9, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Twi, I'm sorry for seemingly bailing on you the last couple of days. I woke up Wednesday and got hammered with my first cold of the year (in my case it's more like a sinus infection + a cold now). That's why I haven't been on the last few days. I forced myself to get on today so I let you know and just simply so I could be on for a little while today. And, what's new in the RP departments for the Elementals? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 20:29, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

Why would Kladenets possess someone? And why Ryota? Plus didn't we already finish the story Light and the Darkness? And it was very epic. -Lady Komainu (talk) 02:04, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

Oh cool, I'll be excited to use Ryota again, still gotta work on his spells though. And oh, I suppose Ryota would be one of the most loyal out of the Elementals other than Kiryk. So yes I guess Kladenets can transfer his consciousness to Ryota if he needs to. Should we start calling him Apacolypse now? Haha -Lady Komainu (talk) 13:02, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

New Toveri Leaders

Well it has been awhile since I've mentioned anything about the Toveri Alliance we are all a part of, so surprise! haha. But anyways, down to business: As some of you have seen Aether Cade is no longer master of Dragon Gunfire, meaning that one of the "sub commanders" are no longer part of the alliance, which leaves a spot open. So we will need to vote on who we think should fill that spot; but because we have had 4 new guilds join the alliance since this last meeting was held, I figure we might as well just vote on all 3 positions again. Meaning that we will be electing a potentially new leader, and two potentially new sub leaders.

We can either do this one of two ways: we can just vote via talk pages of who we want to take the spots as leader and sub leaders, or we can all write a story together and call an "alliance meeting"  of all the guilds and their sub guilds to decide the fate of the alliance. Please let me know on my talk page, which one you prefer and i will start the story page if need be.

One additional thing is that I was going to create a Wizard Saints page for the alliance's own magic council storyline (since there are tons of different councils), so we can nominate our own 10 wizards saints, giving us each a chance to show off our characters and see if others vote for them. The thing is this will actually only be 8 available spots, since both Shōjirō Kusaka and Zora Halo have been recognized as Wizard Saints in our "canon" stories. So look out for that page and leave a comment on it of who you want to nominate! Let me know if there is any questions. --Lady Komainu (talk) 01:20, June 19, 2016 (UTC) 

Alright, guess he wont be part of the story. Would you still like to cast a vote for the 3 leaders? You can just leave it on my talk page. --Lady Komainu (talk) 01:08, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Dragons

I believe you need permission from Deus (Per) Ashy (Welcome!) 03:48, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

I don't really care if there is a dragon or not. And you  can vote now. Pretty much the nominees are all the 10 guild masters within the Toveri Alliance. --Lady Komainu (talk) 04:15, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

I dont know if Ryota would be able to control a dragon as a pet haha, unless it was like Metalicana or something. And you an just leave a message on my talk page. I can erase it quickly if you dont want others to see your vote. --Lady Komainu (talk) 04:19, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Avoid mentioning anything about Acnologia tbh, he's too powerful. Also, go ahead, but you need to choose a dragon slayer magic or something that they use - if you want to make a dragon just tell me what DS magic they're using. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 17:54, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 18:00, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Toveri Candidates

Pretty sure we can do whatever we want to our talk pages. But the candidates are: Samarra Inari, Tristan Scalibur, your own character, William Mercury, Valencia Morningheart, Alden Virkov, Ishikawa Haruhiro, Dairen Kane, Sterling Kasumi, Silver Kasumi, Vasto, Pharzuph Vaccaro, and Alice Vroman. You will cast one vote for the head leader, and then pick 2 sub leaders. --Lady Komainu (talk) 18:20, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Pending; right now, I'm kinda busy. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 19:03, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

It sounds kinda unnecessary imo. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 14:53, June 21, 2016 (UTC)


Toveri ThingsEdit

Hello there TD5, it's Celeste! We, the guild masters who make up the Toveri Council, have recently been discussing the rules to the Wizard Saints for the Alliance and would like to get your thoughts on allowing reformed dark mages to become a Saint. Do you think it's totally fine to allow ex dark mages who have changed their ways or no? Yo Twi, just wanted to make sure that it's ok that I mentioned Nikolai and his Creator's Eye on Shōjirō's page. Also just wondering what do you thing of his revision so far? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:55, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

It sounds a bit unnecessary. Just work on your characters and try and finish them to the best of your ability before you make any plans for stories with them so people will understand why you keep sayin they're so powerful. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 23:19, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

How about we call it a draw between the two as both are titans of magic. Have the draw occur for a reason like to much collateral damage, but I suppose it could be made that Shōjirō was in more of a struggle/losing battle against Irminsul, but still managed to get a few good hits in. Does that work? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:08, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Even if Shōji does lose I just don't want it to be like an insta loss cause you've got to remember that he is exceptionally skilled and immeasurably powerful compared to most others. I guess I don't mind if he loses, but he should still be able to get a few good, solid hits in and should at least be able to cause one or two possibly significant wounds to Irminsul. Also if he and Kiryk went toe to toe, Shōji would still win because he's got more diverse magic and is generally more powerful in general. It would still be a good fight but it would have a predictable outcome in the end. Does that work better? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:36, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

No. Aine's blessing does not allow for offensive power at all, irrespective of how it's done. Ashy (Welcome!) 22:56, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

You've got to remember that Shōji uses more than just magic in a fight. I also would prefer not to have to write a fight between two of my own characters, unless I gave someone else permission to use Kiryk, and if they'd be willing to do so. Also who else did you have in mind besides Shōji to fight against Irminsul, cause I don't mind more than one person in the fight, but who? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:01, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

None of her skills allow for offensive power in any possible margin. Theoria is a Magic centered around illusions. The idea behind Aine is that she possesses a virtually limitless amount of power, however, she is incapable of using that for more than defending herself and other people. If you have read Aine's Magic carefully, it states that Ain Soph Aur is a "boon" granted to her family line by a Fairy. While it allows for said Magic to "never dissipate", the said power cannot be used with malefic intent or it will all return to the atmosphere in an an explosion that has the potential of "destroying both Aine and an area the size of a large town." So, yeah, irrespective of what Irminsul does, he cannot break a condition centered around Aine's life. Ashy (Welcome!) 23:08, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

I don't care if you want to have characters gang up on Shōji, it'll give me a chance to stretch his legs a bit, especially after his major revamp. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:13, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Nah, she's good honestly. She has a sword of her own that suppresses the curse's effect for a while through a demonic influence and she can cloak herself with her own power to defend herself. So, she's good. Ashy (Welcome!) 23:21, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, to be specific, it's a presence that "acts" like a demon, but isn't actually. It has the power to suppress her condition for X amount of time before it takes over her body. Ashy (Welcome!) 23:33, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

I don't know. You never gave much context into who did what in the Nine. Ashy (Welcome!) 23:57, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Toveri

Well, a few of my characters are, One of them applying to become a wizarf saint of yours.

HoloArc (talk) 16:39, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Honestly I don't care. She is already in charge of the prison, so putting her in charge of another special cell doesn't see like too big of a reach. And if you want to make a girl power group, then go ahead. It's your kingdom after all. -Lady Komainu (talk) 15:35, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'll think about it. Also, yeah, place the list in your sandbox. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 15:53, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Twi, I didn't mean to blow off your question about the Demonic Turned Divine RP. Yeah it works and was fine. History for my characters isn't one of my strong points so doing it as an RP worked better for me. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 21:42, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Besides Edward, Aine isn't exactly on great terms with the other members of the Nine. She bears very little loyalty to Kladenets and is instead only joining the Nine to ensure that the country is capable of having a bit of faith in the Nine following Kladenets' forced conquest over the continent. Because she was a member of nobility and the government prior to Kladenets' rule, she knows that she's a symbol of hope for the people that their situation will not be worsened. She has no interest in conquest, herself. Ashy (Welcome!) 00:09, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Nah, don't worry about it. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 03:22, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

I don't know, I haven't read the other articles except for a bit of Ashy's one. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 03:27, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Verfemung (不可避処罰(ヴールフェーマング), Vūrufēmangu; German for "Condemnation", Japanese for "Inescapable Punishment")

This is the best I can offer as of the moment. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 17:15, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds perfect to be honest; it basically fits his overall personality. Also, he really doesn't have allies, per se. He pretty much sees everyone as either an enemy or a tool he can use to become stronger. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 18:23, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Should be a fine concept overall. I'll go with it if you're comfortable. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 18:33, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Basically the magic creates another smaller dimension with its own space-time like an alternate reality that continues to grow and in which its caster reigns supreme, right? I'll have to really think on that cause I'm not sure if I can find or come up with a decent name. I'll let you know what I have on Monday. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 20:56, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

So...he can create new universes? If so, no. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 01:38, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

If it's only a pocket dimension, go ahead- but it'd require a lot of magical energy to use and you could only have one at a time - any more is beyond god level. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 01:58, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, that's fine. Per(This is my stage now!)(Still more~) 00:44, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Well Twi, I said that I'd try to come up with a few names, and it was pretty hard to come up with something, most of which came out being kinda generic. A few of the ones I though of were: Universal Creation Magic, Elysian Creation Magic (named after the ancient Greek paradise, elysian fields) are about it. It was hard given the type of magic that it is. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 20:23, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Ok. What did you ultimately name the magic? Also, I've got a comment for Shōji to use during his fight with Irminsul that is going to make everybody laugh so hard. I'm not going to spoil it now but trust me on this, it's absolutely hilarious. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 21:24, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Good name. And comment wise, I don't want to spoil it. I'll just say its a smidge sexual, but the comment came from a book series that me and my family all likes. And it will fit perfectly with the loosing battle that Shōji is in against Irminsul. I wont say anymore cause I want it to be an unsuspected surprise, but you'll know it when you hear it. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 21:41, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

I suppose that it fits with his moniker, but the magic has to have some kind of compromise to balance it out; like being unable to collapse it while there's someone inside, or being unable to affect the interior once it has been created. Something like that. And a rebellion, I cont really say yay or nay to that, a rebellion would occur if Kladenets was a terrible king, or if he was a complete tyrant. Is that the case? Does everybody follow him just cause their afraid of him, or does the populous respect the king and willingly follow him? I'm at crossroads a on that question, but you should ask everybody else that will be taking part within this project. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 21:52, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Just because he's a tyrant doesn't mean that he's a bad or oppressive king. He may have conquered the continent but he's kept it up and running, has maintained a flourishing economy, and their isn't much war or crime right? I suppose that a rebellion could be from the remaining factions of the former kingdoms, and that would probably be the only way to write such an instance as Klads supporters, well, support him no matter what, right? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:09, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Gotcha. Well its ultimately your decision upon the matter. But like I said Klads soldiers at least are loyal, same goes for the Elementals, for the most part at least, so your best bet in writing in a rebellion is for it to come from the last remnants of the former kingdoms, and during the fight with the Toveri and Shōji against everybody else. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 22:22, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

I suppose I'm fine with Shōji being trapped. It could happen right at the end of his initial fight, Lorelei transporting him as he's launching a potential final strike against Irminsul. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:06, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

That's fine. Also, why not have Irminsul know about Shōji by reputation, as many would know of him. Due to his backstory he's been pretty much everywhere in Earth Land and has a world renowned reputation as being an exceptionally powerful mage. --Otaku-ō (Talk) 23:21, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

I suppose that Shōji could become a god of magic, but in truth, anybody could with enough training is suppose. Don't you agree? --Otaku-ō (Talk) 20:31, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

In July, I'll be working on everything. I'll make sure to add that in thanks. Super Kami Guru (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass!) 23:14, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

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